Theres also a big and small rosemary,4 of a different basil,and a good sized English thyme.A couple of the peppers are multicolored hot ones.The 1 elephant garlic I stuck in,not doing so well so that wont be done again,maybe needs bulb above water level?The Brussels Sprout is growing but not greening,something it needs isnt in the water.
It was the rosemary that caught my eye first - love rosemary - but we have a hard time growing it. I thought they liked "dry feet" I'm surprised they do well in this type of system.
I think wet in hydro is different in that it ebbs and flows so roots can dry off,and breathe.Those grown in constant water need good oxygenation in water,something you dont get in the ground.So roots can suffocate in wet ground and/or rot.
Post by mightyspuds on Apr 16, 2015 16:05:53 GMT -8
Week 5 update
Lots happening....1st off,tank 3/4 isnt balanced,and fish are dying,no probs in tank 1/2. Seems just putting old water from 1/2 into 3/4 wasnt enough to get microbiology right.So yesterday took gravel from bed one and transplanted some into bed 4 to get the proper microbes functioning in that bed,however have lost 1/2 the goldfish I put in.
Rescued the KOI and put them in tank 1/2,hope it isnt too late.Rest of GF stayed in 3/4,if they make it,so be it,otherwise out 5 dollars so financially no loss,but need to get that bed converting the ammonia to nitrite to nitrate that the fish can deal with.
Been harvesting salads in bed 1,made 6 so far,trimming the lettuce.They are booming.The kale are growing up,the tomatoes finally getting going and more flowers.
The basil have doubled in size in bed 2,the thyme and rosemary looking good.
Bed 4 the celery are booming,the peas have moved up 6 inches this week and look really healthy
Bed 1 Lettuce
Bed 2,Basil and thyme
Bed 4,celery and pea's,have to have pea's,they are mandatory at our garden
Post by mightyspuds on Apr 19, 2015 6:29:57 GMT -8
Got another pump like the one I have,will tee it into air line next to current pump,Im pretty sure the main line can handle the double air volume.Got four air stone bubblers,2 for bed 3,and one each for each tank.They didnt have rafts,guess hardware store for something,I still will start some pots though.Got rockwool,it looks like the gravel only little soft balls,and coco coir,its shredded coconut husks,to use as media. Found a lot of seeds we harvested last year and before,bought some radish and green onion seeds.
Post by mightyspuds on Apr 23, 2015 10:35:00 GMT -8
Now...on to bed 3 and some learning and reviewing.
Fish excrete ammonia,then its changed into nitrites,then changed into nitrates,then plants absorb nitrates to grow.
Ammonia is poison to fish,fortunately a microbe,Nitrosomonas sp,changes it into nitrites,less,but still harmful,to fish.So along comes a bacteria,Nitrobacter sp,that changes them into nitrates.What a good little bacteria that is!Now Nitrates are the plants favorite food,and the fish can also tolerate that.And so its said,when we have reached this point the tank has cycled.
So,that out of the way,where are we in bed 3 and tank 3/4? You will see a lot of brown algae in deep water culture (DWC) bed 3,that is a sign of high ammonia.Remember we saw that same thing in tank 1/2 on setup.Now are we into the nitrite cycle yet,dont know,I dont test the water.We do know that it takes 6-8 weeks to fully cycle and the warmer the faster it happens.
In this picture we see algae,and 10 pots,with radish,green onions in 8,and 2 in foreground with OLD carrot seeds,so they may or may not sprout.
This isnt DWC,its a wicking setup.Will I wick or DWC,unsure at this point.If I wick I'll just drop water to 2 inches and place pots in bed,if DWC,I still need rafts to float on water,bed 3 is set up as a DWC bed in that regard,high water level.
DWC is roots from plants straight into oxygenated water.You get a plant started,add to rafting pot,and away you go.Supposedly really fast growth.With wicking you are just keeping a pot constantly moist with fish water.
Not sure where we are going,but some sort of wick setup should do for plants with really tiny seeds and it provides a good media for them.I could put the wick pots into an Ebb and Flow bed,which is beds 1,2 and 4,just add pots to a bed like them,if the wicking is too much moisture down the road.
So bed 3 is where the action is at now.Wick or DWC,and need the nitrogen cycle to finish.
Post by mightyspuds on Apr 23, 2015 10:36:44 GMT -8
Week 7 Beds 1,2,and 4 continue along.Not much excitement there,aquaponic strawberries are fantastic,growing fruits all over,the tomatoes still smallish but also flowers really coming on...Bed 3 is this weeks story
Bed 1,note the water droplets,wonder if thats pumped thru the plants or is condensate?
Post by mightyspuds on May 4, 2015 14:40:53 GMT -8
Cool! Using my K Kontrol thermostat and a fan plugged in,set to come on at 85F and off at 82,maxed today at 94F.Can either set it on at low temp or high temp (ie,heat or cool),paid about 50 bucks,that thing is a winner.
Post by mightyspuds on May 5, 2015 18:50:06 GMT -8
Today for the first time a Koi came up for feeding,the rest were zooming around and checking out what he/she was doing.Wont be long before all of em are at the surface,the goldfish have it figured out,they see me or my face and they come running,how very cool.Always blows my mind these little critters can appreciate what you do and understand friendship in a manner.
Also neat today was the fan turning itself on at 1 pm and off at 3 pm and never exceeded 92 degrees,looks like I have ventilation on track too.
Went ahead and stuck 2 cuttings at the base of each snow pea,looks like they will take and there is plenty room to handle them.Hope it works,that would be nice.
Just a fine day in the garden.I cant believe how lush the yard is becoming.
Oh,oh!The brown algae in tank 3/4 is disappearing,all of a sudden like.I remember on 1/2 when that happened the tank was finally balanced so I THINK,maybe? this might be it.Only 4 fish left in that tank from about 30.
Post by mightyspuds on May 7, 2015 13:27:25 GMT -8
Week 8-Whats new? Experimenting with cuttings,each pea has 2 planted at their bases,trying some in potting media too,seedlings coming along
Tank 3/4 has not lost a fish in three days,and the brown algae has had a die off,when that happened before the ammonia was being converted sooo...I added about 10 fish from tank 1/2,if they start to die I will pull them quickly,we shall see.
The exciting news? The Koi are coming up to feed.They will eat a nickle sized flake in 3-4 bites,very cool.Not great pictures but happy for them to make their internet debut.The water is dark as I added more seaweed extract other day.
Post by mightyspuds on May 13, 2015 21:13:42 GMT -8
So for week 9 Im going to talk about food and medicine for the system.For me the medicine is colloidal silver,I mix it with the seaweed extract.
I make a gallon of extract with 1 ounce of extract.I take it and fill my spray bottle 3/4 full,and finish the last 1/4 with the silver.
The line behind the silver is it kills virus,bacteria,and fungus.The claim is its effective on 650 different organisms.The mechanism has something to do with it being a catalyst, disabling the particular enzymes that all one-celled bacteria,fungi,and viruses use for their oxygen metabolism. They suffocate. The silver and bacteria,etc have different positive and negative charges,and it strips a molecule from Fungi,bacteria and viruses and they die.
We use it in conventional medicine in silver impregnated dressings for wounds,and as silvadene ointment used to prevent infections on burn tissue.Its controversial in home use. You can decide if you want to use it on you or your pets or plants.
In my use in the hoop house,Ive sprayed it on fungus? on wood and it really knocked it out.On the seedlings they are getting a fungus when they come up,a quick spritz and it wipes it out,I mean its GONE.
So thats what Im doing,feeding and medicating the plants from disease several times a week.
My friend the herbalist made me a generator.Cost 25 bucks for parts,or about 100 bucks on web.Consists of a 9 volt battery,I use a rechargable Lithium Ion.The black box has some sort of current limiter IIRC,to make the finest sized nano silver particles.You could skip the box and apply straight current.
You need 2, 5 inch or so pieces of thick silver wire that is 99.9999% pure,thats really pure stuff.You hook the battery to the wires that are submerged in the very pure distilled water,the major brands work best.Also need a hand held laser pen and/or a Total Dissolved Solids meter (TDS) I got for about ten bucks from the China online place.
All there is to it,2 silver wires in a qt of distilled water in a VERY clean jar.
Its done when the laser makes a solid beam in water as light passes through,thats the laser reflecting off the nano silver particles,you can judge strength from that alone.In this picture the strength is 4ppm (parts per million) per the meter,minimum from most sources say from 3 to 50PPM.Friend says he makes 3,all thats needed,for plants I make up to 10 PPM.This batch is 6 for multi use as Im out and I use it for all uses,plants, animal and human,but THATS ME.I dont recommend you do anything,YOU make your health care choices,not me.
Took about 5 hours,I cleaned the probes 3 times during process,they get black and get particulate on them that slows down the current transfer between the rods.Then I transfer it to another jar through a coffee filter to get those few particulates that fall off rods.
Post by mightyspuds on May 23, 2015 18:12:39 GMT -8
Week 10,fish make their first video debut,as does spuds on youtube.Can play it as slow as 144 rate for you dialups if interested.Pretty cool after playing with it forever to make it work,LOL.Rest of updates tomorrow,the fly problem.
Post by mightyspuds on May 26, 2015 17:37:23 GMT -8
Going on to week 12....FUNGUS GNATS! Little tiny things,attack plants by roots,can kill whole plants.I have a BILLION of em! Been using shop vac to suck em up,they are weak flyers.Tried sticky strips,not much.
Larvae...the little white specks on hydroton.
So I got these guys....
And these microscopic worms that attack the larvae
Also got BT powder,awaiting delivery.So we shall see.VERY destructive,killed the rosemary,my large basil too.All over the lettuce but hanging in.Have some leaves turning brown on celery.So far,Im making headway,seeing a LOT less larvae.Will repeat the worms in one week.
Snap peas doing great,pulled off a dozen,the cuttings are struggling,but the thyme cuttings doing well.
Pok choy and radish seeds doing well,concentrating on getting seeds,puppies are expensive so it needs to be done.Learning...
Dill seeds,no idea when they are ready to pick?
Green onions and radish good,transplanted some of the tiny lettuce,unknown if they will survive gnats,hope so,need fresh lettuce plants.
Radishes in bed 4
And the bargain bin onion sets,the spousal units' regular potting setup growing well.
I'm a little confused - you are going to use nematodes to get rid of gnats? Don't nematodes cause their own problems?
No,the specific microscopic sized nematodes attack a certain kind of bugs.After bugs gone they die off.The fungus gnats are garden killer.They kill via roots and at the leaf level.My lady bugs,90% were dead,too bad,500 in hoop house would be nice,I have a couple dozen though.Ive also been vacuuming up gnats,thats REALLY knocked down the population.
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